Any Gun > Endless Fussing About Guns > No Gun

Read the mathematical expression in the title of this post. Any questions?

Of course, there are questions. After all, what is a gun (mostly) blog but “endless fussing about guns,” eh? But what we mean is this: too much fiddling with what you carry actually detracts from your ability to get proficient with what you carry. But even fussing and fiddling with guns, holsters, etc., is better than not carrying, so it’s most important that you carry.

If you got the impression that we’re about to beat our favorite “satisficing vs. optimizing” dead horse again, you’re half right: we’re certainly not averse to giving Deceased Dobbin a few good licks with Louisville’s finestkind equine motivator. But really, to say that the endless fanboy debates about this pistol vs. that pistol miss the point is like saying that Colin Krapernick and the San Francisco 49ers missed the Super Bowl — true, but understated to the point where one’s sanity comes into question. About 99 repeating 9 percent of the stuff written on the Internet (or in print) about self-defensive pistols is nonsense, compared to the overriding primacy of following Rule Number One of Gunfights: BRING A GUN.

Note that it’s not, “Bring a Glock,” or, “Bring a pistol whose caliber begins with point-four,” or, “Bring a pistol designed by John Moses Browning because he was the last firearms designer who was not a drooling, inbred retard.” A gun. Gun, generic, one each, color optional, caliber optional, maker optional.

Pure gun-counter heresy, that.

Are some choices better than others? Yes, but mostly in the edge cases. As much as it may tempt some people (Ian?), and as brilliant as Karel Krnka was, a Roth-Steyr Repetierpistole M.07 is probably not a good choice (for one thing, rotsa ruck finding a Kydex holster). Likewise, an old Jurras Auto Mag looks totally cool, but only a fictional movie character who was six-feet-many-inches tall would actually carry one; another not-a-good-choice. Nor are many cheap pistols, although you would learn a little about firearms lethality from the following exercise:

  1. Buddy up to a homicide detective in your town (or nearest equivalent, for those of us in too small/peaceful villages to have one).
  2. Get him or her to give you the caliber, and if known, make and model of the last 10 homicide guns; 100 in Chicago, as you want a whole month’s data. (Wouldn’t work for our town; to get to 10 homicides you have to go back to the Indian massacre of sixteen-fifty-something).
  3. Our guess is that the distribution will be, in order: 9mm, .22, .380, .32, .25 .40. And the brands will include approximately zero that have fanboys.

Yet people keep asking “is this one better than that one?” Eh. Fact is, it’s not 1910 any more. Most defensive autopistols and revolvers are pretty good. Even the cheap ones are safe to shoot and usually work. Tam summed this up recently in a really good post:

“So, which do you like better? The Glock or the M&P? Which one should I buy?”

Okay, first, I don’t know that I would say I really like either of them. The Glock is a lot easier to mess around in the guts of, if that’s the sort of thing that appeals to you. As far as shooting goes, they’re pretty much of a muchness. All these plastic cop guns are, really.

“Much of a muchness”? We’ll assume she did that for effect. Still, her basic point is there, and deserves to be belabored, like the rib cage of our expired equine, pining for the corrals:

If one really sings to you, buy it, but you’re kidding yourself if you think there are vast differences in performance waiting to be unlocked in one versus another.

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This is the sort of stuff that matters when you add up hundredths and tenths over the course of a ten stage match and probably doesn’t matter dick across a convenience store counter or across fifteen feet of rainy midnight parking lot.

Ding, ding, ding. Do Read The Whole Thing™; this lady shoots more pistol rounds in a year than the average infantry platoon, and between her native curiosity and magazine work shoots a very wide range of good-quality pistols. She knows whereof she speaks; respect that.

And before anyone starts talking about this military unit uses this and that agency is known to carry that, there are two or three facts about military and governmental pistol purchases to bear in mind:

  1. Other things besides raw performance matter. Costs count. Maintenance counts. Compatibility with other kit and allies’ forces counts. (Will you ever fire your pistol whilst wearing a gas mask? Or need to use some foreign nation’s ammunition because that’s all there is? One hopes not). Manufacturing offsets count. And the performance criteria are weighted by somebody and his weights he puts on the various performance measures may not be yours. 
  2. Performance results between pistols on a given test are usually very close: the SIG and Beretta entries were tied in the M9 testing; Beretta’s lower price broke the tie. FN and SIG were very close in recent testing for a Federal agency. Around 15-20 years ago, a special mission unit adopted .40 Glocks, but they only just edged out .40 Smiths, and both of those beat STI 1911s primarily on maintenance, not performance, grounds.
  3. In the military and even as a criminal investigator, your pistol is secondary to almost everything else in your job. If you’re plugging people with Ole Reliable, something has gone seriously awry with Plan A.

For a personal carry pistol, you might want to make a short list, and adopt the first gun you find that checks the few boxes, and carry it with confidence. For instance:

  1. Can I shoot it okay, and will I practice with it?
  2. Can I carry it safely and securely while wearing the clothes I usually wear, and doing the activities I usually do?
  3. Do I like it and feel good about carrying it?

If you like, we can go into the importance of each of those three points. Notice exactly zero of the have anything to do with the sorts of things that fill the pages of gun magazines, the pixels of blogs, or the vast featureless tundra of the gun webs.

See, it’s all about reflexive obedience to Rule Number One.

72 thoughts on “Any Gun > Endless Fussing About Guns > No Gun

    1. Hognose Post author

      It would be interesting to break down the history, politics and judicial temperament/theory of the judges, but I should probably leave it to (a) a lawyer who (b) has an appellate practice (c) before this court, because all a non-lawyer in a far corner of the country can do is take a broad stab at who-appointed-whom. (I have Legal Notoriety by Proxy, however, as I live up two streets from the Jackass Who Recommended Souter, and if I played golf I’d be in his club).

  1. Scott

    Title typos:

    Any Gun < Endless Fussing About Guns < No Gun

    should be:

    Any Gun > Endless Fussing About Guns > No Gun

    Unless I misunderstand badly, those ”.

    Basic hint in using those buggers. The bigger fat end is on the side of the bigger value, the narrow pointy end on the lesser value.

    1. John M.

      Also:
      “About 99 repeating 9 percent…”

      I think you mean “About 99 point repeating 9 percent…”

      -John M.

        1. John M.

          What, the difference between “100%” and “Infinity” is quibbling, now? :)

          -John M.

    2. Hognose Post author

      While I like the faith in me that the guy had, who thought it was an attempt at humor, Occam’s Razor says (and Scott, awk, John M. and several others noticed), it was just a screwup.

      That’s the same error I’ve made once before… Perhaps I’m dysoperatoric.

      1. John Distai

        “…about 99 repeating 9 percent of the stuff written on the Internet (or in print) about self-defensive pistols is nonsense…”

        Not so fast. It’s a double entendre. 99 people repeating a small percentage of the available information. That about describes it, right?

      2. Scott

        It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

        Endless fussing about logical operators + Usual comments > Usual comments

        :-)

    3. Steve M.

      The alligator always goes for the bigger piece of pie. That has always stuck. I don’t like alligators, but I do like pie.

  2. medic09

    I might add that peripherals can usually be kept simple, too. In nearly all civilian cases where we civilians need to defend ourselves, a gun will end the issue one way or the other within moments. Not even minutes. Moments. At which point we should get out of Dodge if still ambulatory.

    For that purpose, access is important. Extra ammunition usually will not be. Even 8/9 rounds in the magazine vs 14 won’t usually matter. Certainly carrying 14/15 in the pistol and another 28 (or more?) just might be overkill. We simply are not going to spend several hours in sketchy conditions, under stress, intermittently using our sidearm. At least, not in most situations in North America.

    1. John M.

      One of the major reasons I carry a spare mag for my semiauto is that the magazine is the part of the pistol most likely to fail. It’s also the part that’s easiest to change out under stress. YMMV.

      -John M.

    2. William O. B'Livion

      What do you train for, and what do you carry for?

      Wouldn’t want to be the well trained guy who ran out of bullets because he had the bad luck to be in the mall when another Westgate like attack went down and all he had was one 10 round magazine.

      1. Hognose Post author

        Going to war against a multiple-shooter small arms attack like Westgate or Bombay is a job for organized multiple-shooter friendly elements like cops and soldiers, not the individual self-defender. (Although it’s true that in Westgate, an ad hoc “militia” of plainclothes cops, private security and armed citizens quickly jelled into an element).

        But generally, you carry and train so that you can thwart the attack and then get yourself and yours off the X. Taking the war to the terrs at that point, as an individual? Well, Stephen Hunter got a pretty good book out of it, but it is the stuff of paperback thrillers and derring-do movies.

        It’s OK to train for the most difficult scenarios with multiple shooters, etc., but on the two-way range you want to stack all the advantages in your favor, and if you have yourself and your loved ones secure and off the X, as a private individual you can call Mission Complete and go home. My opinion.

  3. Raoul Duke

    I’ve found that the better my pistol skills got, the less I cared about what kind of pistol I was shooting.

    Mind you, I wouldn’t choose a Hi-Point .380 or a Taurus Judge, if ANY other choices existed, but if someone shoved one in my hands to defend my life in a bad situation, training and experience would allow me to run them effectively.

  4. Jacobs

    Ever since I began teaching my wife to shoot her pistol we’ve had a running joke regarding the 10 day waiting period in CA.

    “That’s terrifying! Someone could just go in, buy a pistol, and shoot someone! We need waiting periods!”
    “No, someone can go in, buy a pistol, and TRY to shoot someone.”

    Not shooting well with your $500 M&P and think a “better gun” will help? What will help more? A $800 1911 or 4000 rounds of practice? Same price.

    1. DaveP.

      I had a discussion with my boss many years ago about Wilson Combat. He was looking at one of their ‘lower priced’ (circa $1300) 1911’s and asked me what I thought. I said, “For about the same amount of money you can buy a police surplus SIG or Glock, a case of practice ammo, seven or eight boxes of Gold Dots to make sure they feed and then to carry, a good IWB holster, a range membership, and a couple of spare magazines. One way you get a pretty; the other way you get good.”
      There may be better or worse ways to do business but if things come down to the clutch nobody’s going to grade you on if the gun you used was fashionable, or if it was operator approved, or if you were using the ‘right’ caliber or hollowpoint design. Grading will be pass/fail, with ‘fail’ having consequences.

    2. whomever

      Boy howdy. I used to run a Bullseye league. You used to get, broadly speaking, two kinds of people:

      A)Shows up with Dad’s old High Standard, or a new Ruger Mk-Whatever, or whatever. Total cost < $500. Scores 400 in first match. Listens, practices, exercises a little, listens, practices, dry fires, only messes with the gun enough to avoid alibis, listens, practices, …

      A few months later he/she is scoring anywhere from 750 to 850.

      B)Shows up with whatever. Scores 400. Upgrades red dot. Upgrades pistol. Scores 500. Upgrades pistol. Buys custom grips. Scores 550. Buys $2000 Hammerli and the most expensive ammo Eley sells. Years later still hoping to break 750.

      Don't get me wrong – there are top shooters shooting expensive guns; having a beater plinker gun isn't an advantage. But if you put all the guns in a box before the match, and handed them out at random, I don't think the standings would end up any different.

      1. GunnyGene

        When someone ( usually a first timer) asks me what gun they should get, the first question I ask them in reply is: What is your primary purpose for it; entertainment, or killing things? Once that’s settled, we can talk about the details.

  5. GunnyGene

    It’s even worse when it comes to ammo selection. More than once I’ve seen someone spend a $1000+ on a sidearm, and then buy the cheapest ammo they can find; and vice versa.

    Btw, I don’t have a problem with the “math expression”. I took it as part of the humor of this piece. :)

  6. Jonathan

    Yes, very good points.
    Another thing to keep in mind – make sure you get a weapon you are comfortable carrying, and concealing, as well as willing to shoot well enough to be confident of using it under stress.
    I have at times carried a 22 semi-auto, and usually carry a .380 ‘out and about’ in a pocket holster. Either one is light, comfortable, and easy to conceal – if I am out in public I don’t have to kill the back guy, I just have to get him to stop bothering me long enough for me to get away.
    However, if I am on my large property at the end of a dirt road, with local sheriff response 15+ minutes away, I want a bigger gun at hand since getting a bad guy (or multiple bad guys) to stop bothering me will be much harder. But there I locked doors and multiple weapons to choose from – the last time I went outside to investigate noise I took a rifle with a light on it.

    1. Loren

      Exactly my situation and response to it except I use a 12g. instead of a rifle. Hitting inside of 50yds is more important to me than possibly missing.

  7. John M.

    “And before anyone starts talking about this military unit uses this and that agency is known to carry that…”

    There’s also this to say for guns that have been adopted by military and police agencies: they’ve been vetted by people with bigger budgets than normal people and who are probably smarter about this stuff than most people (present company excluded). As you point out with the Beretta and the Sig P226 in the M9 trials, both did quite well. Though I’d strongly prefer the Sig for various reasons, anybody who found the Beretta to suit him is carrying an excellent gun. And that’s only more so for pistols that have been chosen lately.

    Why don’t Ruger or Springfield pistols have any serious uptake in police agencies? Maybe it’s because Ruger and Springfield don’t chase those contracts, or don’t spend enough of their marketing money on hookers and blow. But I think that’s a useful data point for people who are in the market for personal protection guns. There are oodles of pistols from makers like Glock, S&W, Beretta, Sig and others that have passed this vetting. There should be something in there that suits almost anybody.

    -John M.

    1. Looserounds.com

      This has been a small little factoid I also like to remind people of when it comes to selecting a firearm.
      Of course have a gun and all that etc etc. but some guns offer some other things over others, and models tested and used and refined over decades and decades are not something to automatically regard as unimportant. or having little value in decision making when anything will do. Yes any gun can/will do. But buying a gun tested by some of the best users in the world for many years gives many people confidence in the model. understandably so. Having absolute confidence in a gun’s ability is a major mental advantage not to be over looked.
      Same as “any gun will just about do” is sometimes used as a rallying cry and justification for something cheap that may end up costing you a lot more than the price of a gun that costs a few hundred more.

      Im not making a case for anyone to buy something that costs a fortune or whatever, but for those about to purchase a gun to carry seriously and have the time and money to actually buy something they feel could better serve them, then the investment is not a waste in every case. as long as the end user is serious

      Another sticking point with me are some of the users of pistols who hold 14 plus rounds and don’t feel the need to carry a spare mag. A mag. the one thing with the highest change of having a problem.. The one thing that if you have to dump it from the gun to get it working again, you ain’t gonna have another one.. but its ok, their glock or whatever holds 33 rounds in the mag!
      A spare mag is as much a spare tire for you car as it is a way to use more ammo in my mind. Most won’t carry a smaller back up gun if main gun goes down, so a spare mag is the next best thing,
      Ammo, a bullet type for a handgun may or may not be very important and hitting the right spot will always be THE deciding factor, but higher quality ammo that will indeed work and cycle and fire, does matter and often higher quality ammo also goes along with bullets supposedly designed to be an improvement in terminal performance. Hand in glove, Yes a head shot with a wolf steel case ball round will stop a bad guy, if you the round goes off and you hit them,

      Having a loaded gun absolutely is the 1st rule. no doubt. But a lot can happen between getting that gun in your hand and in action to stop that gun fight. and sometimes type of gun, holster and ammo facilitates that. I would humbly submit having a gun in a gun fight is the first rule, but that gun isn’t going to do you much good if you can’t get that gun into play for some other reason. Unless its a fortunate case of just the fact of the victim being armed stops the threat.

      I don’t say any of that to argue the point of the post as I agree with it completely. Just some extra things to think about.

      1. Tam

        “There’s also this to say for guns that have been adopted by military and police agencies: they’ve been vetted by people with bigger budgets than normal people and who are probably smarter about this stuff than most people (present company excluded). ”

        This right here.

        If a pistol company doesn’t sell spare parts and won’t stand up a department armorer course, that’s what I would call a clue.

        If one sticks with one of the models that has seen widespread LE issue in the last couple decades, one is generally on very solid ground.

  8. Jim Scrummy

    “Read the mathematical expression in the title of this post. Any questions?” Yes, I was told there would be no mafths today?

  9. Hayabusa

    I think you have the arrows pointing the wrong way.

    But the last time I was in a formal math class, Ronald Reagan was still CINC, so I could be wrong.

  10. Aesop

    Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!…The Great…and…Oz has spoken!
    Squealer.
    Next, like Penn & Teller, you’ll be doing the ball & cup trick with clear cups.

    And, um, yeah, those arrows…you want to re-orient them 180 degrees out.
    Left = Less than
    Right = Greater than

    1. archy

      As the fictional but believable Hawkawi Indian tribe of the much-lamented TV series *F Troop*
      so frequently demonstrated, arrows that describe a back azimuth are not a good thing. That may be why there are so few of them around to this day.

    1. DAN III

      Wales,

      Grips appear to be LOKGRIPS.com

      If you order P-01 grips from any vendor insure you order CZ75 Compact style.

        1. DAN III

          I have LokGrips on my P-01. Only because they offer a Compact with Palm Swell. Recent email exchange with VZgrips states they will have CZ Compact Palm Swells “soon”.

          I hope so. When they do will most likely “retire” the LokGrips. Don’t like the only available Palm Swell pattern.

          1. DAN III

            The LokGrips are well-made. Fit fine. But, VZgrips offers more patterns and more colors. My P-01 grips are a lighter shade of Dark Blue. Hopefully VZ will make numerous colors and patterns available with the Palm Swell Compact.

            Come on VZ !

    2. Hognose Post author

      They were actually put on by the original owner, who also had it Cajunized; the pistol came from the factory with the usual medium-hard rubber checkered grips with the CZUB logo.

      Fortunately, he provided the original grips in the original VZ Grips blister pack, and it has the product code CZ75-FRAG-C-COM and the UPC 7 99475 40862 5. Does that help?

      Company contact info is:
      http://vzgrips.com/
      850-422-1911

  11. James

    Great write-up! My sentiments exactly. When looking for a modern plastic wonder to replace my p-64 carry gun I held many, shot some, and the Shield came out on top. It just fit me, and pointed naturally. I liked the trigger the best (others hate it), plus I liked the option of a thumb safety. Everyone will have a different experience with this and that’s OK. When I started the journey I thought for sure the Glock 43 would be the answer. Not in my case.

    Off topic but Hognose, have you seen this? https://warisboring.com/secret-american-commandos-hid-out-in-cold-war-berlin-7c3d26437c43#.z23t0ofj7

  12. James F..

    Regarding the six foot many inches actor with the Magnum, I had to go far down in the search results to find Dirty Harry NOT pointing a gun, but I’ve heard that any time Eastwood’s Inspector Callahan is not either drawing or pointing his gun, the actor wasn’t actually wearing it under his jacket. Do you see the bulge of a foot-long 3 pound gun in this picture?

    If you do want to carry something that size in a shoulder holster, you not only need to be 6′ 4″ like Eastwood, but you need to be fit–190 lbs, not 250.

  13. archy

    I have a few other requirements on a handgun I’m going to be carrying for more than a showpiece. I wear eyeglasses, so it’s critical for me to have sights that don’t reflect or otherwise distract from looking very intently at my front sight. For me that means no glow-in-the dark tritium, though I can clearly see [pun there] their utility for others; same deal with white dots and fiber optics. They’re also objectionable if there’s condensation or rain on my eyeglasses, so I want REALLY VISIBLE *barn door* sights- also useful if I lose my glasses in a for-real 2-way target shootoff, like the FBI Supervisor did at the Great Miami FBI shootout.

    I also want something that can be used, and preferably reloaded, if only one of my hands is working, whether recently injured during an affray, or while recovering from other long-term injury: I’ve spent about a total of 2 years with my right hand in a cast, once after running 3 fingers thru a truck’s fan belt pulley and the second after a kid ran over my hand while I was trying to help him horse his 4-wheel ATV out of a mud sinkhole. My left hand took a hit thru the palm from an AK or RPD once, which bothered me less long-term than either of the damages to my right hand did. It did slow down my reloading a bit, so I alternated between carrying a largish-capacity semiauto, or a big boomer sixgun with backup. And I still do.

    And if I’m going to be training/practicing/function testing with my chosen ammo in large amounts, I either want a very good selection of spare parts, or an extremely widespread commercial distribution of them.

    Oh, and more and more, the availability to either have a suppressor fitted or available as an accessory is becoming a strong consideration.

    1. John M.

      I’m so nearsighted that if I lost my glasses, I wouldn’t be looking for my front sight, I’d be shooting by Braille.

      Your comments on hand injuries bring up an important point about the software: everybody occasionally trains weak-hand only, right? It doesn’t need to be done a lot, but you should know how your pistol handles in your weak hand and how it affects what shots you can or can’t take.

      And if your pistol has a manual safety, you need to figure out how to disengage it with your left hand. Figuring out how to draw from your normal carry holster with your left hand is also required. Again, it doesn’t need to be done a lot, but you need to have a plan.

      -John M.

  14. Trone Abeetin

    went to a class recently. The instructor said the most prolific crime gun was the cheapo S&W 9mm SV something. Cheap, reliable…..

      1. Trone Abeetin

        Yeah maybe, it’s so execrable I don’t/won’t bother knowing it’s model number. They still sell it, for obvious reasons, it’s their answer to the High Point. Although, considerably higher quality than the H.P.

  15. Bart Noir

    Hognose, you wrote: “Perhaps I’m dysoperatoric.”

    Err, does that mean you don’t like Wagner?

  16. Dienekes

    Good essay. Early on I thought the only duty guns worth having were those that had done yeoman service for one or two wars, or at least a few decades in police service. And of those, the ones most reliable year in and year out. Beyond that I just don’t care anymore.

  17. Bret Stevenson

    This post (& Tam’s) should be mandatory reading for the sake of improving the signal-to-noise ratio of any gun related content.
    Lord willing this could be the beginning of the end for dreaded Gun Shop/Show Experience. Yeah- THAT experience that includes the Couch Commando, the Desktop Delta “operator”, the Sofa SEAL, the Lawnchair Legionaire, ad nauseum.
    Imagine a world where we could go to what should be our favorite shop/show, etc. without that cast of characters polluting our ears while engaged in their vocal masturbation extolling the “virtues” of brand this vs. brand that.
    Oh well, one can dream- right?

    1. Hognose Post author

      Always entertaining, Lawdog.

      I thought him calling his town Bugscuffle, TX was the best invented place name ever, because it’s such a perfect Rural Tejas place name, until I was watching a reality show and someone had a call to no-kidding Bugscuffle, TX (think it was an animal welfare complaint). About the only way I could have been more shocked was if someone strapped me in to Old Sparky.

      1. Aesop

        It gets worse: although I have never searched for an actual Hooterville or Petticoat Junction, Pixley is actually located in the CA Central Valley.

  18. Keith

    When I was practicing in case I had to requalify for armed carry I shot 150 rounds of 124gr FMJ because that’s what we had to shoot to qualify. I practiced firing as fast as I could accurately and fast magazine change for the first 50. The second 50 was some single hand with strong and weak hand a drill I worked on to get faster with that first shot from my 92FS. The final 50 was a 3-2-1 drill we had to do.

    Keep your powder dry and your faith in God.

  19. Docduracoat

    Funny that you should mention inexpensive versus expensive guns
    After she test fired every small pistol made, I bought my wife a Walther PPK/S
    That’s the one she liked best
    I also liked it a lot but did not want to spend another $700
    So I bought the Bersa Thunder .380 which is a clone of the Walther
    I like the $300 el cheapo Bersa much better!

  20. Combat Adj

    I think “much of a muchness” is a British-English expression to the effect of “six of one, half-dozen of the other” or de minimis . My Aussie wife says it.

    1. archy

      Milady is the daughter of globetrotting parents and got her teenaged educatiion not too far from Alice Springs. Part of her verbal residue from those days is when she goes to make a charge card purchase, and puts it on *her never-never card.* After all, *it’s good as gold….*

      8

  21. Steve M.

    As a “fiddler”, Hognose’s post is spot on. It took a few years for me to finally stop fiddling and start practicing in earnest. It was a most valuable lesson to learn.

    Furthermore, the comments section has brought out fantastic advice from everyone. Tam’s original piece is excellent. It’s advice that simply isn’t coming from enough people behind the gun shop counter.

    “Go shoot”, doesn’t sell as many guns, and it is not all that exciting to read about, no matter how well it’s written. Such advice rarely produces a following unless you’re pairing it with glamour shots on Insta-sham. Then again, the following tends to be nothing more than digital observers, not shooting, but sitting in front of a computer.

    Personally, the excitement of a new gun has always been electrifying, but never as practical as the reality of failing on the range due to a botched draw stroke or the onset of fatigue induced flinching. I can’t say how many times the glamour of the new “purchase” has been broken with the recoil and sound of gunfire as rounds zip through a less than vital region of a silhouette. It’s at those times when technique reasserts itself as greater than technology.

    While tinkering has been a downfall for me and many others, it would seem doing nothing is the greater plague among the people of the gun. There are just too many people who are not shooting at all. “I have a gun and that’s enough”, seems to be the prevailing thought. You can’t even get them to tinker with their firearms as that would imply actually showing an interest.

    1. Hognose Post author

      “Go Shoot,” is not appreciated by some gun shop managers as much as it should be. Sure, it’s great to have Joe on the Gun-A-Month-Club, but it’s better to have Joe on the Case-a-Week Club because he’ll be in all the time to be tempted by all the stuff in the case.

      What you want to avoid is Joe buying a Dillon, but by then he’ll probably keep coming in out of habit.

      1. Aesop

        Au contraire.

        You want Joe buying a Dillon, because then he needs powder, brass, and bullets.
        Then he’ll want to try out a new caliber, so he’ll need a new smokepole chambered for it.
        Then he’ll be shooting a lot more.
        So he’ll need cleaning supplies. Targets. A range bag. Better ear pro. An assortment of shooting glasses.

        Before he realizes it, Joe will be on the hamster wheel of a golfer using lead balls, without realizing that you’re running the local pro shop.

        By the time he catches on, he’s already got 10 or 12 guns, and after that, it’s all force of habit.
        When he starts consigning guns, to get the readies to buy new guns, he’s about as hooked as a junkie.

        1. Steve M.

          Mentioned to another gun junkie about reloading to save money and he stopped me right there. “None of us are in this to save money” he said.

          He’s right.

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