The first happens in the first seconds of this video. The round goes downrange when the shooter cycles the action. His trigger finger was observed to be clear of the trigger guard by the RO.
The gun was pointed in a safe direction, and the shooter’s finger wasn’t on the trigger. The firearm discharged as soon as he cycled the slide.
Usually this on a name-brand gun means someone got creative modifying the trigger without understanding the difference between the degree that trigger is “imperfect” because of manufacturing tolerance stacks, and the degree that the trigger is imperfect because of designed in safety features, like positive angles of engagement on trigger to sear.
More than one amateur smith (and some pros who should know better) has “redesigned” the safety features clean out of a trigger in pursuit of a light, crisp release, using files or even just Arkansas stones.
Note that this occurred during a competition. The shooter was DQ’d because of the AD, even though it was equipment-based, not a result of his own action. But no factory gun does this; it has to be modified, and it has to be modified by someone other than a pro.
Second one, trying to troubleshoot an el cheapo Eibar knockoff of the Browning/Colt .25 in the shop, and as he cycles the rounds through to empty them, kB! He disabled embedding, so you’ll have to go see it on YouTube, but the plus there is you get to see the brain-dead comments (his and others).
Here’s what he says in the video description:
While diagnosing a failure to feed issue a deeper problem was found. The replica was true except the sear spring and sear. The original Browning/Colt used a leaf spring. This replica used an uncaptured coil spring. This spring was old and had just enough strength to catch the striker but not enough to hold it indefinably. This could have happened at any time! It could have been in a holster or beside the bed. Maybe in a safe.. Who knows! Got it all on tape. Please watch for a great example of just how quick accidents can happen.
We beg to differ with him on this. It went off with him handling it. Because he was handling it, and it’s an unsafe gun. It would not have gone off in a safe… probably not even if he left it loaded, chambered, safety off (which he might just have done).
PS: I am using live rounds not because they are live but because snap caps do not replicate all of the various types of ammo out there. I use the exact ammo that the problem was reported to be with. I don’t use dummy rounds because to diagnose a FTF problem you need 5-10 rounds for cycling. These rounds get chewed up over a short period of time. It is now [sic] worth it for me to take the time to produce dummy rounds. I now use a bullet trap for all problem guns.
That is, not to put too fine a point on it, horsefeathers. Wrong again. How many kinds of ammunition are there for .25 ACP?
His decision to bring in a bucket of sand as a Bubba’s Bullet Trap is not entirely a bad idea, if he’s going to persist in the belief that you can only bench-troubleshoot feed problems with live ammo. If you’re really going to maintain pistols and work on them every day for a living, as this guy says in the video he does, a Savage GT bullet trap is a good thing to have.
Can this gun be fixed? Of this problem, yeah, probably. Anything can be fixed, with enough effort and money. But why? Another problem will recur. It was low-quality and marginally safe when it was new, at least 50 years ago. Decades of deferred maintenance will not have done it any kindnesses.
We get guns like this from time to time in auction lots, and we have no earthly idea what to do with them. Some of them are not safe, as is, and they’re not worth fixing. Maybe we could weld them into a gun control sculpture and become a media sensation?